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2002 Honda Civic Si

Alternator FR Signal Circuit Troubleshooting

2002 Honda Civic SiSECTION Alternator FR Signal Circuit Troubleshooting
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  1. Start the engine, and let it idle.
  2. Monitor the ALTERNATOR in the DATA LIST with the HDS.
  3. Check if the indicated percentage is varied when the lighting switch is ON.

    Is the percentage varied? 

    1. YES  - The alternator signal circuit is OK.
    2. NO  - Go to step 4.
  4. Turn the lighting switch and ignition switch OFF.
  5. Disconnect the alternator 4P connector.
  6. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).
  7. Measure voltage between alternator 4P connector terminal No. 4 and body ground.
    Fig 1: Measuring Voltage Between Alternator 4P Connector Terminal No. 4 And Body Ground
    G03639901Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there about 5 V? 

    1. YES  - Replace the alternator, then go to step  1.
    2. NO  - Go to step 8.
  8. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
  9. Jump the SCS line with the HDS.
  10. Disconnect PCM connector A (73P).
  11. Check for continuity between alternator 4P connector terminal No. 4 and body ground.
    Fig 2: Checking Continuity Between Alternator 4P Connector Terminal No. 4 And Body Ground
    G03639902Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there continuity? 

    1. YES  - Repair short in the wire between at the alternator connector and the PCM.
    2. NO  - Go to step 12.
  12. Check for continuity between alternator 4P connector terminal No. 4 and PCM connector terminal A25.
    Fig 3: Checking Continuity Between Alternator 4P Connector Terminal No. 4 And PCM Connector Terminal A25
    G03639903Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there continuity? 

    1. YES  - Update the PCM if it does not have the latest software, or substitute a known-good PCM (see PCM UPDATING AND SUBSTITUTION FOR TESTING ), then recheck. If the symptom/ indication goes away with a known-good PCM, replace the original PCM (see PCM REPLACEMENT ).
    2. NO  - Repair open in the wire between the alternator connector and the PCM.
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